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Elon Musk's farewell press conference with President Trump

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0:12Yeah, at times.

2:03Woo-hoo.

2:07Come on, guys. Yeah.

9:19Yeah, absolutely.

14:52Thank you.

15:04Thank you.

15:09Thank you.

15:09Thank you. Thank you.

15:10Thank you. You see the lock? The lock on this is amazing.

15:21Well, let me say perhaps a few words, that this is not the end of DOGE, but really the beginning. My time as a special government employee necessarily had to end. It was a limited time thing. It's 134 days, I believe, which ends in a few days. So, it comes with a time limit. But the DOGE team will only grow stronger over time. The DOGE influence will only grow stronger. I liken to Buddhism. It's like like a way of life. So, it is permeating throughout the government, and I'm confident that, over time, we'll see a trillion dollars of savings and reduction, a trillion dollars of waste and fraud reduction. The calculations of the DOGE team thus far, in terms of an FY25 to FY26 delta, are over 160 billion, and that's climbing. We expect that number will probably go over 200 billion soon. So, I think the DOGE team is doing an incredible job. They're going to continue doing an incredible job, and I'll continue to be visiting here and be a friend and advisor to the president. And I look forward to, at times, being back in this amazing room. By the way, isn't this incredible? Look. I mean, it's stunning, I think, how the president has just completely redone the Oval Office. It's beautiful. I love the gold on the ceiling.

16:50Yeah. So-

17:09Yeah. The Oval Office finally has the majesty that it deserves thanks to the president. So, I look forward to continuing to be a friend and advisor to the president, continuing to support the DOGE team. And we are relentlessly pursuing $8 trillion in waste and fraud reductions which will benefit the American taxpayer. So that's it, really. Thank you, Mr. President.

17:51A lot of the people, some of the media organizations, in this room were the slingers.

18:00Oh, wait. Wait. Wait. New York Times, is that the same publication that got a Pulitzer Prize for false reporting on the Russiagate? Is it the same organization?

18:13I think it is. I think it is.

18:16I think the judge just ruled against New York Times for their lies about the Russiagate hoax and that they might have to give back that Pulitzer Prize. That New York Times? Let's move on.

18:28Next question. Speaker 1 : That's right. Come on. [inaudible 00:18:29]-

22:57Oh, I am. Speaker 1 : So, do you expect to continue advising-

23:01I [inaudible 00:23:02]- Speaker 1 : … the president and DOGE informally, or are you going to sort of shift your focus entirely to your companies?

23:09Well, I expect to continue to provide advice whenever the president would like advice, if he-

23:15I mean, yeah, I expect to remain a friend and an advisor. And certainly, if there's anything the president wants me to do, I'm at the president's service. Speaker 5 : Mr. Musk, Mr. Elon- Speaker 6 : Mr. Musk. Mr. Musk, [inaudible 00:23:27]- Speaker 7 : Mr. Musk, on DOGE, you said that there was a trillion-dollar promise for cuts from-

23:32Yes. I think we do expect over time to achieve the trillion dollars. Speaker 7 : But what have you found, in your time here, was the biggest roadblock to getting those cuts? Was it the Cabinet, or was it Congress, or something else? What was the biggest roadblock from your work?

23:46It's mostly just a lot of hard work. It's really not any one person or Congress. It's going through, really, millions of line items and saying, "Does each one of them makes sense or does it not make sense?" Obviously, at times, when you cut expenses, those who are receiving the money, whether they were receiving that money legitimately or not, they do complain. And you're not going to hear someone confessing that they received money inappropriately. Never. They're going to always say that they received money appropriately for an important cause. Naturally, that's what you'd expect. It's just a lot of work going through the vast expenses of the federal government and just really asking questions, "What's this money for? Are you sure it's actually being used well?" Many times we can't even find anyone who defends it. So, for a lot of the expenses, there is actually no defender at all. And then we have to just work through the process of stopping the spending where there's often literally no defender. Nobody even knows why the money's being spent. It's truly absurd. I mean, we find situations where there are millions of software licenses with zero people using them. Zero. Exactly. This is the quizzical expression. You're like, "Surely, if there's millions of software licenses, someone should be using them." No. And then we've got to go through the process of saying, "Okay, look, if no one's using the software, we need to terminate this software license agreement." Speaker 8 : Mr. Musk- Speaker 9 : Mr. Musk-

25:18That's everywhere in the government, by the way. Speaker 8 : Mr. Musk, what do you think would be easier, colonizing Mars or making the government efficient?

25:27It's a tough call, but I think colonizing Mars and making life multi-planetary is harder. And as I said, we do expect to achieve over time the trillion dollars of savings. We can't do it in a few months, but if you say by the… I think the official end of DOGE, which the president may choose to extend, is the middle of next year. If you say by the middle of next year, with the support of the president and Congress, could we achieve $20 of savings? I think so. We're on track to do so. Speaker 8 : Do you faith that Congress has- Speaker 10 : Elon, Elon, [inaudible 00:25:59]-

26:09Yes. Speaker 11 : Was it worth it for you? And what would you change?

26:14Yeah. So, what we found was happening was that if there were any cuts anywhere, then people would assume that was done by DOGE. And so we became like, essentially, the DOGE boogie man, where any cut anywhere would be ascribed to DOGE. A friend of mine's daughter who's at law school at Georgetown thought that DOGE had cut the internships, the legal internships for the Senate, and we have nothing to do with that. So, if they have been cut, it was not to do with us, just as an example. So, it just became a bit ridiculous where anything, any cut anywhere, was somehow DOGE, including things that made no sense and we would agree made no sense. So, there are many things that occur in the government because it's the banal evil of bureaucracy. It's the, frankly, largely uncaring nature of bureaucracy. As the great Milton Friedman said, money is spent most poorly when it is somewhat else's money being spent on people you don't know. And that's how federal spending is. And then you can't really even blame the individuals, because the way the government works is complaint minimization. So, when someone within the government tries to stop money being spent, there's usually someone that complains. And then their manager will say, "It's not worth the trouble. Just pay it anyway." That happens over and over again. Speaker 11 : So, was it worth it for you?

27:56I think it was an important thing. I think it was a necessary thing, and I think it will have a good effect in the future.

28:37I got a little shiner here.

41:57Well, I wasn't anywhere near France.

42:01But-

42:01Just making a joke about the [inaudible 00:42:09].

42:10So yeah, I was just horsing around with little X and I said, go ahead, punch me in the face. And he did. Turns out even a five-year-old punching you in the face, actually does-

42:20Yeah.

42:23He's with with his mom right now. But I didn't really feel much at the time. And then I guess it bruises up, but I was just horsing around with the kids, basically.

43:02True.

49:07If I can add something to that? I think the fundamental moral flaw of the left is empathy for the criminals and not empathy for the victims. Empathy for the criminals, but not empathy for the victims. And there's been way too much of that, that needs to stop. To the President's point, there's been immense judicial overreach that is unconstitutional, that was never intended. And it's undermining the people's faith in the legal system. It needs to stop. It's gone too far.

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Well, let me say perhaps a few words, that this is not the end of DOGE, but really the beginning. My time as a special government employee necessarily had to end. It was a limited time thing. It's 134 days, I believe, which ends in a few days. So, it comes with a time limit. But the DOGE team will only grow stronger over time. The DOGE influence will only grow stronger. I liken to Buddhism. It's like like a way of life. So, it is permeating throughout the government, and I'm confident that, over time, we'll see a trillion dollars of savings and reduction, a trillion dollars of waste and fraud reduction. The calculations of the DOGE team thus far, in terms of an FY25 to FY26 delta, are over 160 billion, and that's climbing. We expect that number will probably go over 200 billion soon. So, I think the DOGE team is doing an incredible job. They're going to continue doing an incredible job, and I'll continue to be visiting here and be a friend and advisor to the president. And I look forward to, at times, being back in this amazing room. By the way, isn't this incredible? Look. I mean, it's stunning, I think, how the president has just completely redone the Oval Office. It's beautiful. I love the gold on the ceiling.15:21
Yeah. The Oval Office finally has the majesty that it deserves thanks to the president. So, I look forward to continuing to be a friend and advisor to the president, continuing to support the DOGE team. And we are relentlessly pursuing $8 trillion in waste and fraud reductions which will benefit the American taxpayer. So that's it, really. Thank you, Mr. President.17:09
A lot of the people, some of the media organizations, in this room were the slingers.17:51
Oh, wait. Wait. Wait. New York Times, is that the same publication that got a Pulitzer Prize for false reporting on the Russiagate? Is it the same organization?18:00
I think the judge just ruled against New York Times for their lies about the Russiagate hoax and that they might have to give back that Pulitzer Prize. That New York Times? Let's move on.18:16
Next question. Speaker 1 : That's right. Come on. [inaudible 00:18:29]-18:28
Oh, I am. Speaker 1 : So, do you expect to continue advising-22:57
I [inaudible 00:23:02]- Speaker 1 : … the president and DOGE informally, or are you going to sort of shift your focus entirely to your companies?23:01
Well, I expect to continue to provide advice whenever the president would like advice, if he-23:09
I mean, yeah, I expect to remain a friend and an advisor. And certainly, if there's anything the president wants me to do, I'm at the president's service. Speaker 5 : Mr. Musk, Mr. Elon- Speaker 6 : Mr. Musk. Mr. Musk, [inaudible 00:23:27]- Speaker 7 : Mr. Musk, on DOGE, you said that there was a trillion-dollar promise for cuts from-23:15
Yes. I think we do expect over time to achieve the trillion dollars. Speaker 7 : But what have you found, in your time here, was the biggest roadblock to getting those cuts? Was it the Cabinet, or was it Congress, or something else? What was the biggest roadblock from your work?23:32
It's mostly just a lot of hard work. It's really not any one person or Congress. It's going through, really, millions of line items and saying, "Does each one of them makes sense or does it not make sense?" Obviously, at times, when you cut expenses, those who are receiving the money, whether they were receiving that money legitimately or not, they do complain. And you're not going to hear someone confessing that they received money inappropriately. Never. They're going to always say that they received money appropriately for an important cause. Naturally, that's what you'd expect. It's just a lot of work going through the vast expenses of the federal government and just really asking questions, "What's this money for? Are you sure it's actually being used well?" Many times we can't even find anyone who defends it. So, for a lot of the expenses, there is actually no defender at all. And then we have to just work through the process of stopping the spending where there's often literally no defender. Nobody even knows why the money's being spent. It's truly absurd. I mean, we find situations where there are millions of software licenses with zero people using them. Zero. Exactly. This is the quizzical expression. You're like, "Surely, if there's millions of software licenses, someone should be using them." No. And then we've got to go through the process of saying, "Okay, look, if no one's using the software, we need to terminate this software license agreement." Speaker 8 : Mr. Musk- Speaker 9 : Mr. Musk-23:46
That's everywhere in the government, by the way. Speaker 8 : Mr. Musk, what do you think would be easier, colonizing Mars or making the government efficient?25:18
It's a tough call, but I think colonizing Mars and making life multi-planetary is harder. And as I said, we do expect to achieve over time the trillion dollars of savings. We can't do it in a few months, but if you say by the… I think the official end of DOGE, which the president may choose to extend, is the middle of next year. If you say by the middle of next year, with the support of the president and Congress, could we achieve $20 of savings? I think so. We're on track to do so. Speaker 8 : Do you faith that Congress has- Speaker 10 : Elon, Elon, [inaudible 00:25:59]-25:27
Yes. Speaker 11 : Was it worth it for you? And what would you change?26:09
Yeah. So, what we found was happening was that if there were any cuts anywhere, then people would assume that was done by DOGE. And so we became like, essentially, the DOGE boogie man, where any cut anywhere would be ascribed to DOGE. A friend of mine's daughter who's at law school at Georgetown thought that DOGE had cut the internships, the legal internships for the Senate, and we have nothing to do with that. So, if they have been cut, it was not to do with us, just as an example. So, it just became a bit ridiculous where anything, any cut anywhere, was somehow DOGE, including things that made no sense and we would agree made no sense. So, there are many things that occur in the government because it's the banal evil of bureaucracy. It's the, frankly, largely uncaring nature of bureaucracy. As the great Milton Friedman said, money is spent most poorly when it is somewhat else's money being spent on people you don't know. And that's how federal spending is. And then you can't really even blame the individuals, because the way the government works is complaint minimization. So, when someone within the government tries to stop money being spent, there's usually someone that complains. And then their manager will say, "It's not worth the trouble. Just pay it anyway." That happens over and over again. Speaker 11 : So, was it worth it for you?26:14
I think it was an important thing. I think it was a necessary thing, and I think it will have a good effect in the future.27:56
So yeah, I was just horsing around with little X and I said, go ahead, punch me in the face. And he did. Turns out even a five-year-old punching you in the face, actually does-42:10
He's with with his mom right now. But I didn't really feel much at the time. And then I guess it bruises up, but I was just horsing around with the kids, basically.42:23
If I can add something to that? I think the fundamental moral flaw of the left is empathy for the criminals and not empathy for the victims. Empathy for the criminals, but not empathy for the victims. And there's been way too much of that, that needs to stop. To the President's point, there's been immense judicial overreach that is unconstitutional, that was never intended. And it's undermining the people's faith in the legal system. It needs to stop. It's gone too far.49:07

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