特朗普与马斯克接受汉尼提访谈（完整视频）｜2025年2月18日

0:19Yeah, yeah. [inaudible 00:00:20].

0:30I mean, I left it up to the lawyers and the team running Twitter. So I said, "You guys do what you think makes sense." Speaker 1 : I think it's funny because-

0:48Yeah. Speaker 1 : If you read and believe the media, he's become one of your best friends, he's working for free for you.

0:53Well, I love the president, I just want to be clear about that. Speaker 1 : You don't care about that?

0:57No, I love the president. Speaker 1 : You love the president.

0:59I think President Trump is a good man and he's [inaudible 00:01:02]…

1:07It really is.

1:09Because I mean, the president has been so unfairly attacked in the media, it's truly outrageous. And at this point I spent a lot of time with the president, and not once have I seen him do something that was mean or cruel or wrong, not once. Speaker 1 : I've known him for 30 years, and I've never seen anybody take as much as he's taken.

1:35Yeah. Speaker 1 : And we've discussed this and I'm like, "How do you deal with it?"

1:49Well, I was going to do it anyway, but that was a precipitating event, yes.

1:54Yeah. Speaker 1 : The day of the assassinations.

1:58Yeah. It just sped it up, but I was going to do it anyway. Speaker 1 : Mr. President, with your indulgence. I'm convinced that people only know a little bit about Elon, I don't think they know everything about Elon because as I studied and prepared for this interview, I learned a lot about you that I didn't know. I think people will think about Tesla, Democrats are demonizing you and trying to make the country hate you. I just want people to understand you a little bit better, and the person that you've gotten to know and have now put a lot of trust in. And just let's go over a little bit of your bios starting with PayPal, and how you became involved in Tesla, and SpaceX, and Neuralink and all these-

2:42This could take a while. I mean, I think the way you think of me is, I'm a technologist and I try to make technologies that improve the world and make life better. Speaker 1 : You do show your shirt.

2:52Yeah. And that's why I like my T-shirt says tech support because I'm here to provide the president with technology support. Speaker 1 : [inaudible 00:02:58].

2:59Now, that may seem like, well, is that a silly thing? But actually it's a very important thing because the president will make these executive orders, which are very sensible and good for the country, but then they don't get implemented. So if you take for example, all the funding for the migrant hotels, the president issued an executive order, "Hey, we need to stop taking taxpayer money, and paying for luxury hotels for illegal immigrants." Speaker 1 : It's [inaudible 00:03:26].

3:25… which makes no sense. Obviously, people do not want their tax dollars going to fund high-end hotels for illegals, and yet they were still doing that even as late as last week. And so we went in there and we're like, "This is violation of the presidential executive order, it needs to stop." So what we're doing here is, one of the biggest functions of the DOGE team is just making sure that the presidential executive orders are actually carried out. And I just want to point out, this is a very important thing because the president is the elected representative of the people, so he's representing the will of the people. And if the bureaucracy is fighting the will of the people, and preventing the president from implementing what the people want, then what we live in is a bureaucracy and not a democracy. Speaker 1 : You're both aware, you have to be keenly aware that the media and the punditry class… I think you've proven they have no power anymore because they threw everything they had at you, and they didn't win. And that was the New York Times, Washington Post, three networks every late night comedy show, two cable channels, they threw everything Lawfare, weaponization.

5:21Yeah.

5:49Yeah, they do actually. Yeah.

7:21Hugged the rocket.

7:23Everything needs a hug and clearing rockets.

7:35Its never been done.

8:34Yeah, they do.

11:49At some point. Speaker 1 : Is in over-

11:50They always ask me like, "Do you want to die on Mars?" And I say, "~Well, yes, but not on impact." Speaker 1 : Starlink is in 100 countries. This is going to be hard, I feel like I'm interviewing two brothers here.

12:06Yeah, it is already been used for national defense. Speaker 1 : Then you have a, what is it called? Optimus, a part of Tesla.

12:12The robot. Yeah. Speaker 1 : Robotic arm. Then you have an AI arm, and then you have something that really fascinated me and it's called Neuralink.

12:22Yes. Speaker 1 : You might help the blind to see, and people with spinal cord injuries that they can recover where in the past… How close is that becoming a success?

12:36Yeah. Neuralink, we've implanted Neuralink in three patients so far who are quadriplegics, and it allows them to directly control their phone and computer just using their mind, just by thinking. So we call this product telepathy. So you control your computer and phone just by thinking. And it's possible to actually control the computer and phone faster than someone who has working hands. Then the next step would be to add a second Neuralink implant past the point where the neuron's damaged, so that somebody can walk again. And so they can have full body functionality restored, and-

13:14I like Bobby actually, yeah. I supported Bobby Kennedy, I think he is unfairly maligned as someone who is anti-science, but I think he isn't, he just wants to question the science, which is the essence of the science… The scientific method fundamentally is about always questioning the science. Speaker 1 : Well, they didn't tell us the truth about COVID, that's for sure.

13:35Correct. Yes. Speaker 1 : And we learned a lot with the Twitter files. And that just then raises a question, you're the richest man in the world. You may not like that part.

13:44Yeah. I think it's neither here nor there, I don't know if it matters. Speaker 1 : You're pretty competitive, I've known you a long time, but-

14:08Well, thanks for having me. Speaker 1 : So-

14:10I am just trying to be useful here, so- Speaker 1 : This is the interesting, this is where we are as a society. And I hate to do this to you, but I'm going to do it anyway. You're doing all of these things, yet DOGE, nobody at DOGE gets paid a penny, correct?

14:24Well, actually some people are federal employees, so they're doing- Speaker 1 : Some are… okay. They're helping?

14:27But it's fair to say that the software engineers at DOGE could be earning millions of dollars a year, and instead of earning a small fraction of that as federal employees. Speaker 1 : Okay. So just-

14:39Yes. Speaker 1 : So you're committed to helping the blind see, people with spinal cord injuries, recover.

14:46Yes. Speaker 1 : You're committed to getting to Mars, you're going to help next month two astronauts that I think were abandoned, they dispute that in an interview.

14:58At the president's request or instruction, we are accelerating the return of the astronauts, which was postponed kind of to a ridiculous degree.

15:14Yes. They were left up there for political reasons, which is not good. Speaker 1 : Okay. It's not good. Now, if I had the weight and the pressure of doing that successfully on my shoulders, I think I'd be… But we spoke before we did this interview, you are very confident, you think this will be a successful mission?

15:34Well, we don't want to be complacent, but we have brought astronauts back from the Space station many times before, and always with success. So as long as we're not complacent-

15:47I think it's about four weeks to bring him back. Speaker 1 : About four weeks?

15:51Yeah. And we're being extremely cautious. Yeah.

15:55Yes. Well, thanks to you-

16:23Yes. Speaker 1 : You donated to the people in-

16:56Yeah. I mean, I used to be adored by the left- Speaker 1 : Not anymore. He killed that, huh?

17:01… less so these days. Speaker 1 : I really did a number.

17:04I mean, this whole sort of like, they call it like Trump Derangement Syndrome, and you don't realize how real this is until… You can't reason with people. So I was at a friend's birthday party in LA, just a birthday dinner. And it was a nice quiet dinner, and everyone was behaving normally. And I happened to mention, this is before the election, like a month or two before, I happened to mention the president's name. And it was like they got shot with a dart in the jugular that contained methamphetamine and rabies, okay? And they're like, Why?" And I'm like, "What is wrong? Guys, you can't have a normal conversation? And it's like they become completely irrational. Speaker 1 : He has no idea, but if you're friends with him, you pay a price. I walk in a restaurant in New York and was like half the room, it's daggers, and they want you dead.

17:51No, the eye-dagger level is insane. I mean, I had some invitation… So I got invited to basically a big sort of DEM event, but I didn't received the invitation the beginning of last year, and I still attended even after I'd endorsed President Trump. And I didn't realize how profoundly that would affect how I was received. I mean, I walk into the room, and I'm getting just the dirty looks from everyone. If looks could kill, I would've been dead several times over. Speaker 1 : But that was not [inaudible 00:18:33] before Trump-

18:36You try dodge the ashes in the floor. Speaker 1 : [inaudible 00:18:37] before Trump that never happened right?

18:38No.